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  Do you still shudder at the sight of a Elder?

  by kls in

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  i remember so long ago i thought elders were like a god and would always make sure i smiled at them and put on my innocent act in front of them .

  even being out of the cult it took me years to finally get it through my head that they are human and not a god as they themselves think.

  then one day a jw elder came to my door and at that time i had a newborn baby that i had been up with all night .

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  • i used to post about my expose' of jw when i meet them on the street. but i stopped because i hate typing. an also because many here . don't seem to enjoy my tales of how i beat up jw's . but i'll entertain all here about what happened saturday morning. first i go pick my brother to go out for the day at the drag races. in my old cong. we see bro packo standing on the corner looking like a dope . he was one of my dad's jw partners that told me 35 years ago i would never finish high school!!!!!! i stop the car and start blasting away. and ask him why none of his kids are jw's today? is it because you used to drill them and smack the shit out of them at the hall . on how they would never even get married in this system?but now thier kids have children. then another bro i don't know so well came to the same corner waiting for his fs ride. these two jw's never even talkedd to each other duh> i started working on bro crossed eyed. my brother knew him well. he turned out to be pretty honest. he said the wt told him not to go to college. but he got his b.a. etc. i think he';s an account.i asked him why he would follow these dopes. when they tried to stop him from getting a good degree and nice job. i took it easy on him because i could see he knew the jw's were worng in many respects. and he may be a bit of and outsider. i gave him my number as we talked about some wt doctrine . he seemed to agree that the wt was wrong about many things. next my bro and my son stopped at the local mall for breakfast. sure enough a jw mom and her 12 yrs old son all dressed up in a 3 pc. suit came into to order. i wasted no time as i didn't know them. i ask thje lady for a wt mag. and asked her if she could back up everything in it. ? she stood up straight and said sure it's all the truth. i just breezed through the mag. and asked her who is this author. they quoted etc. have you tested any of these refrences she stumbled. then after more pressure. amitted she couldn't . since her son was listening. i asked how can you dress your kid up in a suit and drag him out in fs on a beautiful saturday. and peddle this crap if you can't back it up? i turned my focus to her son.. i asked the kid did mom tell you that the wt taught as the words of JEHOVAH. that i 35 years ago would never finish junior high school?. then i dragged my son into the arguement. and asked if they go to school together . they agreed they knew each other from school.. i asked how does it feel to have to sit in the library, or princvpal's office . when they have assembly, birthday party, xmas, no sports, etc. the jw kid was embarrassed. now i asked his mom to open her nwt . and show me were it said such thing's.? she couldn't and refused. at this point i think she fugired out who i was. she told me i would never talk to bro's like i talked to her. well after i finshed breakfast. we left the diner. and low and behold , the p,o, and two elders in know well were all sitting in the mall , getting thier fs group ready. i made a bee line fot the overseer. asnd started blasting him. he wanted to shake my hand, i said i don't shake hands with liars that have blood on their hands. i make sure all the jw there heard me and my brother who joined in , expose these elders and nothing more tham dopes. i told the p.o. why don't you tell this 12 yr old jw how you told me 35 years ago that i would never finish school. and all the other bullshit you told me that never came true . from your magazines. them we started on elder flecher on how he had a contrabution box at his tuesnight study, and how you should take your kids into the bathroom at the book study to beat them up for answering the questions wrong. etc. begging ppl to put $$$$$$$$ in his box at his house. shit this guy never even gave anyone a glass of water. there was much more . but to keep it short! at the end they ran away. plus i pressured the p.o. when he called he a liar about the 1975 shit case . that he should take me to the kingdom hall library right now . and we will see who's lying. ... hope i planted a few seed in some of the younger jw's there/ john
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  Who Likes Roller Coaster?

  by simplesally in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i love roller coasters, but i am so not sure if i would ride this new one at six flags.

  i went to their website and they have a virtual ride you can take!

  six flags unveils fastest roller coaster wednesday, september 29, 2004. jackson, n.j. ?

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  i've been planning to go to cedar point ohio. to listen to judge RUTHERFRUADS MILLIONS WILL NEVER DIE SPEECH. CIRCA 1919> but my sister went there last year , and she says they have about 15 costers. she told me about 4 of them are truely world class. and she 's a amusement park nut. the new kingda ka at new jersey. is the same ride they have at cedar point . only it's about 30 feet higher @ 450 feet
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  Read Barbara Anderson v. Watchtower Court Documents

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. scandals

  if you are interested in reading barbara and joe anderson's court documents just as they were filed, you can now access them on www.silentlambs.org soon bill bowen will be scanning in the defendants' motions and briefs for your 'reading pleasure.'.

  to access the documents look towards the top of the silentlambs home page and a few lines down on the left you will see today's date.

  after the date, reading from left to right across the page is a line of subjects.

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  1. i've been reading this case on silentlambs. i think were the wt loses out is the point made about the difference of the 1st ammendment right to beleive anything you want and the right to act on your beliefs. as if acting out to hurt the public in general. based on your beliefs. some of what i'm reading is a little gray. as i'm not a lawyer. but i'm sure any jury of 12 americans. can understand the common sense of keeping a church .from hiding dangrous, or criminal activity under the sepration of church and state. it seems the churches have build up a legal , way to skirt the laws over the years. just remember what was gained under good or bad pretenses. can be be removed or curtailed. as need be by public outcry. or just just simple common sense. look what has been happening in france in the last 10 yrs. over 100 so called churches including the wt have lost some of thier rights. as an honest religion. based on some of their activities. A SCAM ONLY LASTS AS LONG AS THE SCAMMER CAN CON THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THE STATE. there allways come a point in time when the scammer has to answer. the wt may not fall but in the next 20 years . they will be taken to the laundry and cleasned to an extent... john
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  Who Likes Roller Coaster?

  by simplesally in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i love roller coasters, but i am so not sure if i would ride this new one at six flags.

  i went to their website and they have a virtual ride you can take!

  six flags unveils fastest roller coaster wednesday, september 29, 2004. jackson, n.j. ?

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  i went to six flags jackson n.j. last week and the new coster was not open. BOO! NOT sure how good it will be . it's only one hill plus a small hill. but i did ride the nitro coster there about 14 x and it is great. and a 12 hill ride. yahoo. john
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  Did our ancestors really live for hundreds of years?

  by pennycandy in

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  for all you scientific brains out there .

  .. the bible claims lifespans of over 900 years.

  what does science say about this?.

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  johnny cip

  we all know the jews counted the full moons. if you take 969 full moons . and divide by 12 moons a year . you get 80. years and 9 months. or if you divide 969 by 13 new moons a year 364 days a year = 74 yrs 6 months. i thi8nk this is the true measure of time they were using in this period. just my 2 CENTS.
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  If You See A JW or An Elder, Do You Try To Avoid Them?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was in a drugstore a couple of months ago, i saw the presiding overseer in the other aisle with his wife.

  i saw them and made a conscious decision to leave.

  what would you have done in a similar situation??

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  i go out of my way to stop and expose the jw's in public. elders are my favorite target. if i catch a field serv group. i go straight for the elder. and let all his flunkies, watch me blow him out of the water. on any topic.( of course i allways pick the topics) lol. then when he calls me a liar on some wt doctrine. i tell him straight out . LET"S GO TO THE KINGDUMB HELL LIBRARY RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!! WE WILL SEE WHO'S LYING. they allways back down. then i remind them as they are running away. jesus said false teachers will hide who they are ,once exposed hiding behind white washed graves... i make it my duty to embarrass jw's public. they earn their fs time when they run into me. john
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  Third World WTS

  by gringojj in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wts is growing rapidly in poor countries this we know.

  but my question is how are things conducted in these areas?

  the wts could be baptising people left and right just to show the number of jws worldwide is increasing.

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  keep in mind the wt is a business. they are looking for $$$$$$$$ @5 years ago the wt closed thier branch office in India. something to do with lack of funds! inother words they weren't getting enough donations there. the wt is only in countries that will let them in. china, saudia arabia, yemen, etc have none or next to no jw's or wt branch offices. why doesn't the gb go personnally into IRAN, OR iRAQ. BECAUSE THEY know they will be BEHEADED. in short order. so they are not really foot step followers of jesus. they are in the real estate business. john
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  Greatest Rock drummers

  by DanTheMan in

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  2. entertainment

  i was listening to zep's dazed and confused today and the rocking middle section of that song never ceases to amaze me - john bonham was from a different planet, was completely insane, or both.

  nothing i've ever heard in any other song quite compares to that.. honorable mentions:.

  neil peart on the songs tom sawyer and subdivisions.

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  bill ward (black sabbath) while not the best drummer . was very hard and sharp.
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  WTS Bills US JWs $8.4 million for Traveling Overseers

  by ezekiel3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  being announced at service meetings this week at all us congregations:.

  a letter read during the announcements states that due to increased costs of health insurance and vehicles provided for traveling overseers (circuit and district overseers) the watchtower bible and tract society has determined the need to ask for a specific "contribution" for the "traveling overseer assistance arrangement".. .

  until this date expenses of this sort were paid from the worldwide work or general fund of contributions.. .

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  forget double dipping ,for the same expense. i would say the wt dips about 4-8 times. for each expense. . don't the congs already pay for the leased cars. co 's housing, travel, healt and medical ins. plus kiss his ass ,and hand him an envolope every week he stops at a cong in his area. free dinners. $$$$$$$$$$ and what ever else the cong of the week give him,then in3years the wt sells the circuit leased car. (owned by the wt car dealer ship} and the circuit pays again. then all the expenses for the co are added into the circuit assembly. then when the co comes back to your local hall. AGAIN. PLUS THEY ARE TAKING MORE $$$$$ OUT OF THE local hall fund each week you get the pleasure of getting flogged by C>O> don't forget the distrist ass. you have to pay again. etc. what a SCAM. i want to donate my last 2 chickens to the wts. aug 2004 CRAPTOWER. JOHN
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  Society once again teaches: Creative days were 7000 years each!

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  "long time lurker, first time poster".

  thought everybody would enjoy this snippet of an e-mail, from a friend of a friend who is in the current gilead class:.

  "...brother liverance gave a fascinating talk on bible chronology.

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  johnny cip

  i'm sure the wt said eve was created in the same year as adam 4026 b.c. i'm pretty sure it was the oct 8 1968 awake pg 13-14. i could be wrong on the date the wt printed it . but i'm 100% positive. the wt said eve was created in 4026 b.c the same year as adam. some one please post it . b/c i'm to lazy to look it up john